Please provide specific examples of edits/revisions and re-issuing of publications. I ask this because though I have read a number of posts saying such are happening, I have read many specific examples of such having happened. The claims being made are very interesting to me.
Disillusioned JW
JoinedPosts by Disillusioned JW
-
28
Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'
by Mace.Bean inyoutube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.
use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.
(114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!
-
-
Disillusioned JW
-
28
Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'
by Mace.Bean inyoutube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.
use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.
(114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!
-
-
Disillusioned JW
blondie, do you have examples of the WTS editing past publications and re-issuing the new books regarding the length of the creative days? Is the revised edition of the Life How Did It Get Here? By Evolution of By Creation book one of them?
-
28
Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'
by Mace.Bean inyoutube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.
use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.
(114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!
-
-
Disillusioned JW
Folks, I recently very quickly browsed the video about the letter. What I read of the letter is something which I think could have a big impact if many present JWs were to read it. That is because it contains in concentrated form a large number of weird, and in some cases even disturbing, claims of the WT.
Before I got baptized as a JW I was aware of some of the claims, but had never kept more than a few or several of such examples in my mind during an hour, or even spread out over a month or a year. If I read a short document containing so many of such claims (siting WT publications I had already read or at least had easy access to) it would have convinced me not to become a JW! That is because it would have convinced me that the religion is too unreliable and too risky for me to officially join it, even if it is correct about the Bible being Jehovah God's word, the trinity, hell, human soul, paradise Earth, the nearness of the great tribulation, and some other main teachings of the WT.
Note that for a time the WT had a policy stating that even unbaptized persons who had been regularly associating with the congregation could end up being treated as ones whom JWs should not associate with (citing 1 Corinthians 15:33)! See page 174 of the 1972 WT book called Organization for Kingdom-Preaching and Disciple-Making and in regards to unbaptized minors see the last paragraph of page 175. See also pages 148 - 149 of the 1983 WT book called Organized To Accomplish Our Ministry. Page 149 of the latter book said "A brief announcement is made that the person is no longer recognized as an approved associate. (1 Cor. 15:33) The congregation will then view the wrongdoer as they view one who has been disfellowshipped." The WT later issued updates of the latter book's policy in pages 18 - 19 of the 11-15-1988 WT and in page 29 of the 02-18-1989 WT. The 1983 book was revised in 1989.
-
28
Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'
by Mace.Bean inyoutube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.
use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.
(114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!
-
-
Disillusioned JW
waton, I never had individual issues of the WT and AW prior to issues of the early 1970s or so (probably no earlier than 1974 ones), ones prior to a few or several years after my birth. At a thrift store had bought some WT bound volumes possibly containing content from as far back as 1960 but I am not sure of that. Were you in the religion (or raised in the religion) prior to the year 1950?
-
40
Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting
by Corney inivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.
it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.
to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.
-
-
Disillusioned JW
Note that https://www.catechismclass.com/catholic_bible_study.php says the following. "Catholics are taught not to independently interpret the Bible but, we are encouraged to read the Bible." Doesn't that sound like the WT saying JWs should not study/interpret the Bible independently of the WT?
-
40
Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting
by Corney inivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.
it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.
to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.
-
-
Disillusioned JW
The Watchtower has Vatican envy. The WT is trying to copy portions of the organizational and legal structure of the Roman Catholic Church.
The WT/JW religion wants all of the legal rights of the Catholic Church while wanting to continue claiming they don't have a clergy class, are not part of Christendom (despite claiming they are the headquarters of the earthly organization of Christ's kingdom), do not have a hierarchy, that their governing body and other Bethel members take a vow of poverty, that they are God's channel and they in some sense receive inspiration from God, that they are the one and only true religion, that they disfellowship some JWs (in other words practice a form of excommunication - even more severe than that of the Catholic church), that they have a legal entity which is called the "Religious Order of Jehovah's Witnesses" (the Catholic Church also has an order), etc. The Religious Order of Jehovah's Witnesses was organized on August 21, 2000 - the same year the WT said the governing body of JWs is no longer a part of the WT corporation.
The WT operates inquisitions - known as Judicial Committees in which they try JWs for heresies and on other matters. The WT says JWs shoul not study the Bible without the guidance of the WT doctrinal literature. The Catholic Church says Catholics should not study the Bible without the guidance of the Catholic Church's literature.
See https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.religious_order_of_jehovahs_witness.ed57e6971ac48c7cf2512c42a2169a31.html and https://www.guidestar.org/profile/11-3574246 . See also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/183773/religious-order-jehovahs-witnesses-letter-from-wt , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporations_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses , and https://www.bible.ca/Jw-catholic.htm .
-
27
Oct 8 1966 Awake! PDF-- pushes 1975 date
by cabasilas indetails about how to download the october 8, 1966 awake!
magazine pdf will appear at the end of this post.
background.
-
-
Disillusioned JW
slimboyfat, that is a good point about Jesus and the angels not knowing when the sixth creative day ended. About the time I made my prior post I also thought that, hypothetically speaking, if Jesus really did exist when Adam and Eve were created, then he would know when the 6th creative ended and yet the NT says that in the 1st century CE he did not know when the generation would pass away, and/or when the tribulation begins, and/or when the sign of the Son of Man appears in heaven, and/or when Christ comes in judgement. - Matthew 24:29 - 37.
While the WT says the that "the Son of man coming on the clouds" is seen with figurative eyes of understanding, rather than with literal sight, notice the first part of Matthew 24:30 (1984 NWT). There it says "And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven ...". That is literally saying something will be visible in the sky ("heavens") which would be "the sign of the Son of man" coming in judgement, which then causes nonbelievers in Christ to "beat themselves in lamentation". Not only that, but the verse says those people "will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Thus this verse actually says that non-Christians will literally see the Son of Man! it is not simply speaking of followers of Christ figuratively 'seeing' with figurative 'eyes' of understanding the arrival/coming of Christ!
-
35
Jehovah Witnesses lost in Court. Disfellowshipped Sister Reinstated by Court Order?
by pistolpete inimagine the "faithful" jws who are now having to talk to this person by court order or face the consequences----legally.. exjws are spreading the news and now some exjws who have been disfellowshipped for years are starting to research to see if this is an option in their country.
here are the articles, you need to translate in google.
https://www.nrk.no/norge/gry-nygard-ble-ekskludert-fra-jehovas-vitner-_-vant-i-lagmannsretten-1.15570621.
-
-
Disillusioned JW
At least, perhaps due to a different court case, the WT's shunning policy now prevents the WT from any longer receiving government funds from Norway for being a religion. It is due to a court ruling in March 2022 due to the WT's policy about shunning. See https://a-jw.org/norway/jehovahs-witnesses-loses-appeal-in-norway/ .
-
10
Does Society Receive State Funding in Norway?
by Band on the Run ini periodically check the talk page of the jw wikipedia page.
when i entered the search terms, i noticed jw in norway, which aroused my curiosity.
according to the article on religion in norway, norway funds most religious groups.
-
-
Disillusioned JW
The WT no longer receives government funds from Norway for being a religion. It is due to a court ruling in March 2022 due to the WT's policy about shunning. See https://a-jw.org/norway/jehovahs-witnesses-loses-appeal-in-norway/ .
-
27
Oct 8 1966 Awake! PDF-- pushes 1975 date
by cabasilas indetails about how to download the october 8, 1966 awake!
magazine pdf will appear at the end of this post.
background.
-
-
Disillusioned JW
Moments ago I read something fascinating regarding the WT's calculation of 6,000 years of human existence in an ex-JW scholarly book by M. James Penton called Apocalypse Delayed: The Story of Jehovah's Witnesses (1st Edition) on pages 199, 201, and in footnote 69 on page 346, which led me to something even more fascinating in the February 15, 1955 WT on pages 94 - 95 (as published in the 1999 WT Library CD-ROM).
Penton's book said in the 1943 WT book called The Truth Shall Make You Free that the WT said the 6,000 years of human existence would end in 1972, but was later shifted to 1975, then 1976, and back to 1975 again. The 1955 WT (in the "Questions from Readers") answers the question of: "What are the reasons for changing the date of Adam's creation first from 4028 B.C. to 4026 B.C. and now recently in the book "New Heavens and a New Earth" to 4025 B.C.?" The latter part of the answer says the following (I added boldface for emphasis)..
'According to Genesis 1:24-31 Adam was created during the last part of the sixth creative-day period of 7,000 years. Almost all independent chronologists assume incorrectly that, as soon as Adam was created, then began Jehovah's seventh seven-thousand-year period of the creative week. Such then figure that from Adam's creation, now thought to be the fall of 4025 B.C., why, six thousand years of God's rest day would be ending in the fall of 1976. However, from our present chronology (which is admitted imperfect) at best the fall of the year 1976 would be the end of 6,000 years of human history for mankind, 6,000 years of man's existence on the earth, not 6,000 years of Jehovah's seventh seven-thousand-year period. Why not? Because Adam lived some time after his creation in the latter part of Jehovah's sixth creative period, before the seventh period, Jehovah's sabbath, began.
Why, it must have taken Adam quite some time to name all the animals, as he was commissioned to do. Further, it appears from the New World Bible Translation that, even while Adam was naming the animals, other family kinds of living creatures were being created for Adam to designate by name. (Gen. 2:19 footnote d, NW) It was not until after Adam completed this assignment of work that his helpmate Eve was created. Since God created nothing new whatever on the seventh day, Eve must have been created on the sixth day; and this the divine record confirms in its account of the sixth day: "God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God's image he created him; male and female he created them."-Gen. 1:27, NW.
The very fact that, as part of Jehovah's secret, no one today is able to find out how much time Adam and later Eve lived during the closing days of the sixth creative period, so no one can now determine when six thousand years of Jehovah's present rest day come to an end. Obviously, whatever amount of Adam's 930 years was lived before the beginning of that seventh-day rest of Jehovah, that unknown amount would have to be added to the 1976 date.'
I don't recall ever reading the WT saying that Jehovah God created more animal family kinds after the creation of Adam, but perhaps I read such in the latter 1970s. But a number of years ago while doing independent study of the Bible I did get the idea of Genesis 2:19 possibly conveying that idea.